Career Advice

[sol]

HI,
Last three years I am working as a oracle faculty. Currently I am preparing for Fifth paper in oracle DBA Exam!

I want to know how can I enter into the software field!

Is this DBA certificate help me to find a job!

I am fed up from this teaching!

Please guide me!

Sol

[yoda]

"The authority of those who teach is often an obstacle to those who want to learn."
-- Marcus Tullius Cicero (106-43 BC), Roman statesman, orator, philosopher

[sreddy]

Originally posted by sol
HI,
Last three years I am working as a oracle faculty. Currently I am preparing for Fifth paper in oracle DBA Exam!

I want to know how can I enter into the software field!

Is this DBA certificate help me to find a job!

I am fed up from this teaching!

Please guide me!

Sol

From my understanding, You must be an expert on the architecture of oracle and how oracle works... in different environments specific to different business scenarios? You should be okay in real time environment too as teaching different issues/problems with examples is part of db administration and making students learn...and explore... technology.

How confidant are you in implementing your knowledge, given a production box, with 24X7 availability ? This justify you are ready to rumble OR you need some time to get to real environment... You are in software field already! I don't think teaching oracle is not part of IT. Cheer up and start building a career...

AFAIK, Certificate will not get you a job but, build confidence to get a job... GOOD LUCK!

[Sureshy]

It takes a strong person to remain confident when they have spend six months slugging it out in the bedroom tring to get an OCP and probably spent thousands supporting themselves whilst doing it only to be told that they would ot even be considered unless they have 2 years solid DBA experience.

In my honest opinion OCP is overrated and watered down as far as using it to get a DBA job with is concerned, especially without any experience. I used it purely to broaden my knowledge and it is excellent for that!!. I would not consider doing one unless I was already involved in Oracle somehow - Developer/Support etc.

There are people out there who have studied for years through execllent University Institutions and they can't get a job, how do you think a 6 month paper OCP will help you?

The problem is that an Oracle DBA is probably dealing with 24*7 business critical systems that simply CAN'T go down, the employer needs to ensure that they are hiring a person that can deal with this pressure.

In UK any Junior DBA jobs are now advertised with a recommendation for a 1st class honours degree and 1 year experience before even being considered... No mention of OCP.

[julian]

Originally posted by Sureshy
In UK any Junior DBA jobs are now advertised with a recommendation for a 1st class honours degree and 1 year experience before even being considered... No mention of OCP.

Really? Have a look at these 2 adds:

UK-London-SOUTH EAST-Senior Oracle Dba


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Salary: £34k + benefits
Senior Oracle DBA required with a well established blue chip company. Your
required experience will be: Oracle Systems Admin in a 24x7 business critical
environment, application server experience upto 9i and and be very competent
with Java, xml & pl/sql. Interviewees must also have a degree & be OCP
qualified and have a history in working with major blue chips. This is a very
exciting role for the right individual with great benefits. Call now for
immediate interview: 0208 490 1999. EU passport holders need only apply.
It would be preferable that CVs aresubmitted in Word format
MN RE0505 D3107 VIMR4411


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Additional Information
Position Type: Permanent
Ref Code: MN-RE-VIMR84411-31

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Contact Information
Victoria Martinez-Lees
oracle.perm@realit.co.uk
REAL IT
CARLSON HOUSE, 266-276 UPPER RICHMOND ROAD,
PUTNEY SW15 6TQ
Ph: 020 8490 1999
Fax: 020 8490 1900


UK-MID-EAST MIDLANDS-**Oracle Dba- Production £40k-Amazing !!


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Salary: £ TO 40K + PENSION + HEALTH
My client has a rare opening for an Oracle production DBA with at least 3 years
recent experience in a similar role ! They are a huge multi-national company
which have a close knit team environment. Work along side of a 22 man team
ranging from DBA's, Unix administrators, Application support teams to Helpdesk.
You will an integral cog in the DBA team as a Senior Oracle DBA. This fast
paced and energetic environment is set in lovely surroundings with excellent
offices and more importantly a GREAT team !! They have a good social
environment and are very friendly. You must be adaptable and pro-active as well
as be able to pick up NEW skills quickly. READ ON FOR MORE INFORMATION !! Based
in Nottingham you will need to have a solid career path to show commitment and
also be well educated (e.g working towards OCP). You MUST have experience of
production and pre-production environments and be able to create and maintain
database environments. You will be involved in the following duties: Tuning
(EXPLAIN PLANS), Manage performance issues, troubleshooting, PL/SQL, building
databases, administration, maintenance and operations, resource management,
oracle networking, OEM etc… SKILLS REQUIRED: Oracle (7.3.4 - 8.1.7) production
DBA - 3yrs minimum, UNIX knowledge (preferably Sun Solaris E10K), PL/SQL,
Backup & Recovery (EBU & RMAN), Import & Export, EXPLAIN PLANS, OEM (Highly
advantageous), Designer 2000 (Highly advantageous), NT (advantageous). PROJECT
WORK: Having just acquired a smaller venture they are in the process of
integrating the systems and expanding formal procedures, Migration, Upgrades of
Unix, ongoing patching/release & MUCH MORE - Moving towards Oracle 9i next year
at the latest. THIS IS THE ONLY ROLE you need - GREAT TEAM, GREAT COMPANY -
APPLY NOW !!
It would be preferable that CVs aresubmitted in Word format
MN CF0413 D0608 MRNG5087


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Additional Information
Position Type: Permanent
Ref Code: MN-CF-MRNG305087-32

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Contact Information
Mark Nightingale
COMPUTER FUTURES
6TH FLOOR, PHOENIX HOUSE, 1-3 NEWHALL STREET
BIRMINGHAM B3 3NH
Ph: 0121 607 5757
Fax: 0121 607 5758

[pando]

34K for a senior is kinda cheap hehe

[Tarry]

And you gotta have history of a blue chip company..

[sol]

Hi guys,
Thank u for your reply!

Sol

[marist89]

Yoda will have to back me up on this, but isn't there a saying that goes:
"Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach."

[sreddy]

Originally posted by marist89
"Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach."

May be TRUE but, how its possible: You can teach 'em to do but, you can't do the same. Probably it boils down to Personality, interest, intentions,commitment blah blah...