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Oracle job market was pretty good last month based on the number of unsolicited calls every day from recruiters. They pick up the resume from one of the search sites and it was hectic. And it dried up suddenly since the first week of Feb.
Is Oracle dying again? Anyone has an idea how is the current market in US? What is the salary for a senior DBA?
Has the "High End" Oracle market ever been revived? Sure, there are plenty of 40K jobs for Jr. guys out there, but when was the last time you looked at a six-figure job with a 20K signon?
IMHO, you can't judge the job market by the number of hits you get from a job search website. I know several people that got flooded when they put their resume on Monster or HotJob only to have things dry up a couple weeks later. Does that mean the job market changed that quickly or that recruiters just try to fit the fresh resumes into their job openings?
its looking not so bad in the UK, recruiters are starting to bite a bit more, salaries arent as high as they used to be - but they were over inflated anyway.
Agree There.
Don't Expect 80K salaries. You want higher salaries go up in the Sr. Managemernt/CEO etc.
Realrates.com has some self reported salary and hourly rate information, but it covers the entire I.T. spectrum, and it is a bit light in data.
Does anyone have another site that focuses on hourly rates?
In Minneapolis, a plumber charges $100 an hour while a house cleaner charges about $35.
In comparison, an middle level oracle dba gets paid about $40/hr. Outsourceing basically gutted the oracle consulting market. Big oracle shops such as Best Buy, Target, Wells Fargo have contracts with outsourcing companies to bring in suitcase dba's at cheap rates. Worse, most managers at these companies gets bonuses based on how much cheap labor they used.
Wal-martization of oracle continues!! Next step is DBA wears a blue dress and works for federal minimum wage.
That's why I say. Strike a deal with your current employer/client , dump the contractor and start picking up other skills. IT market is due to some huge upheavals and usurpations in the coming years, So don't rule out foul play.
The plumbing company gets $100, Not the Plumber. Plumber might get $20. It works the same way, IT consulting company gets $150 and you get $40 to $50 (min) and $75-$100 (max).Quote:
Originally posted by kris109
In Minneapolis, a plumber charges $100 an hour while a house cleaner charges about $35.
Thats how business works here and Comparisions are always relative...
Outsourcing + H1's + Freaking L1 visas... 1.3 million of those last year..
Insane..
Unless, of course, you are the company :)Quote:
Originally posted by sreddy
The plumbing company gets $100, Not the Plumber. Plumber might get $20. It works the same way, IT consulting company gets $150 and you get $40 to $50 (min) and $75-$100 (max).
Those were my thoughts exactly when I reflected on how Hamlin Plumber's comes out and it's Mr. Hamlin who's doin' the work.Quote:
Originally posted by slimdave
Unless, of course, you are the company :)
Do not go that side, Its Highly debatable topic which involvs US Govt and business gaints minds. We are over with that kinda discussions. If you have time search these forums.Quote:
Originally posted by kris109
Outsourcing + H1's + Freaking L1 visas... 1.3 million of those last year..
Insane..
We get nothing by yelling! rather I would advise you to beat the competition and get the best out there for you (Might take few sleepless nights but you reach your destiny)
Not by a long shot. I do not mind moderators preaching but I do not like if they stifle free discussion in an open forum.Quote:
Originally posted by sreddy
We are over with that kinda discussions. If you have time search these forums.
I have no problem with any of these visas as long as the companies that use them play fair. There is some discussion going on in a senate sub-committee right now.. on how these companies misuse L1's to displace Americans as well as funnel the remaning work to oursourcing...
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Not by a long shot. I do not mind moderators preaching but I do not like if they stifle free discussion in an open forum.
Hey, I'm not preaching, moderator is not a great designation here at dbasupport.com (I never said I deserve), If you know how to transfer it from me, I would be glad :) to give it up for you.
FYI, I do not work for big gaints, neither I own a company. Just a DBA struggling to survive in this down economy purely on my hard work/sleepless nights, with NO help/support from anybody, not even friends. Hope you got it. Tell me now, Am I preaching or telling naked facts ??
http://www.dbasupport.com/forums/sho...threadid=39618
I'll help ya buddy! :)Quote:
Originally posted by sreddy
Just a DBA struggling to survive in this down economy purely on my hard work/sleepless nights, with NO help/support from anybody, not even friends.[/B]
Thanks for offer I appreciate it. I have passed that stage of seeking help/accepting help, got used to moving on my own ;)Quote:
Originally posted by slimdave
I'll help ya buddy! :)
P.S: When we say some fact people think they are the only ones going thru down economy or economic fluctuations but, fact is job maarket is National & Global.
Everydamn thing is interrelated. If you fart in Singapore(read=all that funny virus sars, now somethin else), tremors are felt on the otherside. Too much money has been squandered in the last couple of years.
It's like sailing a huge ship which is loaded. so if you roll too much on your port, it's gonna take a long while to come to your mean(midships), forget about going to the Starboard(read=again a booming economy)in the coming times.
It'll be there, but we'll have to bite our finger nails.
Kris Hope you won't slap me silly :D
This thread seems to have turned stream-of-consciousness all of a sudden. It reads just like the kind of functional requirements document i have to build systems off of.