TO MODERATORS: To Have TOPIC CATEGORY in Posts

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11-26-2002, 05:51 AM
quester

TO MODERATORS: To Have TOPIC CATEGORY in Posts

Dear Moderators and all members -

I have a request in the design of Composing Posts OR Replying to Posts. I think in the Compose Window, where we actually type the message, we must have a List (Static List) Box that has pre-loaded values such as "B&R", "Architecture", "RMAN", "Backround Processes", "General" etc. We must also make this field a mandatory column.

The Advantage - by this, whenever topics are posted / replied, the SUBJECT will be Pre-Fixed with the category. So when a user wants to search topics which are pertaining to Backup & Recovery, he will search on the topic category "B&R" - which pulls out all posts that have subjects pre-fixed with "B&R". I mean the user need not think of constructive key words to search on topics this way; besides no one can miss the topics.

Also the Seach Options - we can have another column called "SEACH CATEGORY" which will list the same set of Static Values as the List described above. This facilitates for a smooth constructive control of the various topics that are posted.

Some of the Static Values (we can always add more as we encounter) could be -

RMAN,
B&R (Backup & Recovery),
ARCH (Architecture),
SGA,
DF (Datafiles),
TS (TableSpaces),
RA (Redo & Archive Logs),
NAC (Network Admin & Config),
BP (Background Processes),
SP (SQL & PL/SQL),
PT (Performance Tuning)

etc etc.

Please cooperate in sharing your thoughts on this. I felt this would be a great improvement on the architecture of the board

P.S: Please don't move this topic to general section, as this concerns everyone specially this DBA forum to take a look and give their feedback. I kindly request atleast for a day or two that this topic remains in this forum. Many thanks in advance.
11-26-2002, 06:29 AM
marist89

The people that have the ability to modify this forum don't regularly read the "Administration" forum.
11-26-2002, 08:03 AM
quester

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Originally posted by marist89
The people that have the ability to modify this forum don't regularly read the "Administration" forum.

Oh that's fine. BTW, you being a Moderator yourself - may I ask your opinion about this enhancement Sir?
11-26-2002, 08:08 AM
quester

Quote:

Originally posted by marist89
The people that have the ability to modify this forum don't regularly read the "Administration" forum.

Oh that's fine. BTW, you being a Moderator yourself - may I ask your opinion about this enhancement Sir?
11-26-2002, 04:22 PM
fstroud

quester, we're going to look into the feasibility of adding this feature. We'd like to know how valuable users would find such a feature, so I'd like to get the thoughts of other users on this idea. What does everyone think?
11-26-2002, 04:41 PM
pando

my opinion is no need, adding such features and making it mandatory this would be like other forum which I never went back (such as technet forum which has like 30 forums)

useless, I have been using this forum for 2.5 years with no problems at all in getting answers or searching
11-26-2002, 04:57 PM
marist89

So now somebody can pick "ARCH" and their subject is URGENT!!! ? Or, maybe they pick "B&R" and their question is about PL/SQL...

One of the criteria I use to answer questions is the subject. If the subject is non-descript I move on to the next one. People who know how to describe a problem provide a good subject. I don't think it would help me answer questions faster...
11-27-2002, 12:05 AM
quester

This is my idea.

1)Say I want to search something on RMAN specific. But the key word I use for search may not be there in the posts that actually contain the answer I am looking at. So I may never be able to track the post I am looking for. If there is a pre-fix on the Posts' Subject and if there is a category tpe in the Seach Page, I can pull out all posts and only posts that contain information on RMAN. That way, my search is faster and better organized into what I am looking at.

2)Another reason why I asked this feature is, incase say I want to view only topics on B&R at the moment, because I am preparing for exams or interview and would like to see the possible questions on B&R - how would I be able to do it in the current design? But with my proposition, it is possible to segregate the B&R posts and look into it comfortably.

Anyway, this is your board. I am just a passer by who aspires for some useful (in my opinion) features. I don't think it needs lot of thinking, debating and arguing for such a feature. If it interests you, you may do it and I am happy.

P.S: As one of the members "fstroud" has replied saying it depends what everyone feels - this is the major reason why I requested this post to be allowed in the DBA section; there was a strong logical reason why I requested for that. This post has only about 70 Views here from yesterday; had it been in the DBA Forum, just like any other normal post, it would have had atleast 300 views and atleast 20 replies. Anyway, as I mentioned, the Board Authorities have to be more interested in features like these than anyone else.

Many thanks for the responses..
11-27-2002, 12:52 PM
marist89

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Originally posted by quester

P.S: As one of the members "fstroud" has replied saying it depends what everyone feels - this is the major reason why I requested this post to be allowed in the DBA section; there was a strong logical reason why I requested for that. This post has only about 70 Views here from yesterday; had it been in the DBA Forum, just like any other normal post, it would have had atleast 300 views and atleast 20 replies. Anyway, as I mentioned, the Board Authorities have to be more interested in features like these than anyone else.

Would you really want to wade through 100 posts of "The Giants are great!" or "OCP Questions" when viewing the Admin forum? No. Sure, they would get a lot of views and probably a lot of responses, but it's not relevent to the Admin forum. Besides, the owners of this forum seldom look at the Admin forum. You could have 3000 responses and they would never see the feedback. You probably wouldn't have gotten the response from Forrest if this was in the Admin forum.
11-27-2002, 11:51 PM
quester

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Originally posted by marist89
Besides, the owners of this forum seldom look at the Admin forum. You could have 3000 responses and they would never see the feedback. You probably wouldn't have gotten the response from Forrest if this was in the Admin forum.

Hey, hold on. I meant this post to be a part of DBA Forum. Agreed. I never meant it should not be a part of this feedback forum. I meant it would have been best if this was visible in both the forums, that way we could get the best response on this.

Yes, posts other than DBA do not look good in the DBA Forum; but there are always exceptions and this post made a lot of sense to be a part of the DBA forum (also).

One thing I want to stress - when all the doors are closed, the mind can think only in one direction. As long as there is an attitude to openness and an attitude to see things in a broader sense, nothing can happen, let alone posting this post in any forum.

To me, it doesn't bother much anyway. But to the forum, it would just have been a simple enhancement with a very useful feature (again in my opinion), without having to harm anyone anyway.
12-04-2002, 02:23 PM
sreddy

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Originally posted by marist89
So now somebody can pick "ARCH" and their subject is URGENT!!! ? Or, maybe they pick "B&R" and their question is about PL/SQL...

One of the criteria I use to answer questions is the subject. If the subject is non-descript I move on to the next one. People who know how to describe a problem provide a good subject. I don't think it would help me answer questions faster...

Well Said. Doesn't make sense to type in strings like 'Urgent' or 'Respond Immediate'. Members respond to forum questions based on the topic and how much knowledge they have on that topic not cuz, someone said 'Urgent'. Even Pay support from oracle will not allow you to talk to them until they see tar in their systems which might take 5 to 10 min. So, Better the Subject desciption, better search capbilities on topic. I don't see seperate categories need either.
12-11-2002, 02:49 AM
quester

:p :p

It reminds me of the famous Goose Is Out story. A Goose-baby was put in a bottle (through the mouth of the bottle) and was fed till it grew to a bigger size and finally to the complete capacity of the bottle. Now there was no way the Goose could come out either until it was killed or the bottle was broken:)

Here it is .. on one hand the Goose Is Already In and on the other - I ask myself Will The Goose Be Out?

And Guess What - Some day the committee of moderators decided that we should NOT be putting posts related to Oracle all in one Forum. We must categorize them into different forums such as "Oracle DBA Forum", "Oracle Applications", "Oracle Development" etc. Same committee of moderators also agree that there is no need to categorize topics of DBA, and after all the "Subject" alone can do the needful. If subject alone can do the needful, why at all categorize different forums anyway? Moderators find some ease in categorizing at some level and also NOT categorizing at some level:confused: :confused:

Marist89 said So now somebody can pick "ARCH" and their subject is URGENT!!! ? Or, maybe they pick "B&R" and their question is about PL/SQL...

..and may I ask what gaurantee is there that an Oracle Apps question need not be posted in Oracle DBA forum, going by the logic of Marist89 ?? If the person is aware it's a B&R Question, he will categorize as a B&R question. If he is ignorant he may go wrong categorizing into something else (which he can still do by posting the question in a different forum):)

The preception is so tight and cornered and sealed and narrow-minded, there is no way the Goose Will Be Out here, until either the Goose is killed or the bottle is broken:):

Hey, don't take it to heart, I was just kidding...:)

Quester

Anyway that's a way of life
12-16-2002, 02:11 AM
grjohnson

How about a "Have you used the search functionality before you posted this question" reminder.

Mind you that would get ANNOYING for all those people who DO!
05-13-2003, 03:34 PM
snap-dba

well i just posted in another forum about that. i had the same idea as you "quester". glad to see someone else asking for this.

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..and may I ask what gaurantee is there that an Oracle Apps question need not be posted in Oracle DBA forum, going by the logic of Marist89 ?? If the person is aware it's a B&R Question, he will categorize as a B&R question. If he is ignorant he may go wrong categorizing into something else (which he can still do by posting the question in a different forum)

that will be a moderators duty. if they see the topic belongs to another category, then they will move it. this way the content will be organized nicely in categories will a little effort.

come on guys, you all are oracle gurus. don't tell me indicies are useless to organize the data. and search without them takes about the same time....