Certified DBA and So What?

Since I signed up with dbasupport last year, I have read numerous arguements on whether one should go for OCP or not. the views are almost equally divided. It does not make any sense just arguing. You can argue it forever.

I think it all depends on your personal situations. For those who have not found a dba job,it might be a better starting point in getting a OCP. For those who have been dba for some years, they might not be in a rush to get a OCP, or they might not even have to. To those who have been a dba and who want to fullfill personal satisfaction, might want to take one.

I myself have been dba for some years now, but I would admit that I do not know everything about oracle. To me, I think getting actual experience is more important than getting OCP. If I have some real work to do, I would learn by doing it, say master some oracle products, such as WebDB,apps,LDAP. When I feel I really have nothing interesting to learn, then I would prepare for OCP. I spent one month on OCP one and passed it last June, and spent two weeks on OCP two and passed it this past May. I don't know when I am going to do my next one.

Some thougts after taking two exams:
1, I do learn something new from preparing OCP;
2, By just getting OCP without actual experience, you will not be able to handle the actual dba job;
3, Some actual dba tasks are not designable in OCP questions,maybe some gurus can improve the OCP questions in the future;

All in all, we should not just compare OCP to experience. OCP and experience should go hand in hand and compliement to each other, not one against another.

Hi Dragon, 8th June 2001 10:58 hrs chennai

I agree centpercent with your views.May be i had put the same in different flavor.

Cheers

Padmam

[Edited by padmam on 06-08-2001 at 01:27 AM]

with 6.5 year's exp in system and database admin including
hp-ux,dg-ux,informix ,sql server and oracle and
certifications like mcse,mcdba,mcsd,scsa,scna

what i can say is that there's no subsitute for concrete experience.

certification only makes it easier to convince others of your worth ,though only initially.

I agree with Dragon and padmam.

Certification is just a plus but not subsitute to EXPERIENCE.

And for STAR, why doctor's were not allowed to do operations as soon as they get degrees. Are you ready to go to a doctor for an operation with no experience. Same thing here, no one will be ready to take you and give his Database by seeing your CERTIFICATION and no experience.

In this form one asked, can you answer every thing if you are a DBA.
I have a question for Them: What for do you Certify, get experience to PERFORM what you need to at WORK!! Can they perform at WORK with NO experience just by taking certification.

Stop wasting time at arguing. Let us spend time in learning new things and go on...

I know in ORACLE corp. itself more than 50% are not certified.
In fact many in this form are Engineers and their minds are bent to learn anything to learn new.

That keeps any one going

Cheers.........

Hello everybody,

This is the second time I am replying to this post allthough Iam not an OCP I dont think it is fair on our part to discourage people who are trying to learn oracle and try to gain knowledge thru some training program or go thru self study and get thru certiifcation It is surely going to be helpful for all of them dont discourage them guys maybe they might not be so experienced right now one day they might be much better then one of us and help us in turn.We guys have had the experience on working on oracle DBA if they are doing certification they also have some aim of achieving something in their career.I feel it is not worth wasting time on debating on a issue which will never end but I allways feel we should allways help and encourage people who are intrested in learning the subject either thru training or thru certification or self study.

I dont think I would be intersted in participating in such a discussion any more in future

Just sheer waste of time (Last and final reply from me)

No offence meant People

Regards

well,the situations vary.if u r a dba in small company and
with very little tasks,and just repeat your daily works for
more than two years,do u think that two years experence
is valuable?i know a guy who just learning for ocp and no
experence at all but can answer a lots of questions on the
net!
so as i said,a good interview should focus on the knowledge
at all and go hell of experence and ocp!

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Stop wasting time at arguing. Let us spend time in learning new things and go on...

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I dont think I would be intersted in participating in such a discussion any more in future

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You still have the option of not participating...

Hi All,

I totally agree with Santosh..

I have total 9 years in Oracle and out of 9 I have 5-6 years in DBA. Recenntly I passed OCp 8i. It helped me to learn more new features. And also I agree in post they mentioned if a DBA is working in one company and he/she has routine job, then one can not learn more but counting experiance. So OCP will give some chance to learn more and also it is persson to person. In my opinion experiance will help in job performance and OCP will help in learning more new features. Once we learn more new features then one can perform in their job very well and cope up with any problems. So experiance and OCP will help in job.

http://www.certmag.com/issues/dec00/...gabelhouse.cfm

Hi , i cleared the pepers and got promotion ...
more ask what, i got a better job also .what say ?