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You took a test prior to June 15th (one that happens to fit the 9i track). You are grandfathered, meaning you DO NOT have to take an ILT or online class. Continue taking the exams until done. You can stay with the 8i track and then take the upgrade exam, still with no ILT or online class requirement.
I understood your feeling towards the changes, I have the same feeling here, however a few comments on the quoted.Quote:
Originally posted by ehaskins
I think this "new" requirement is going to kill the OCP Program!! Oracle has enjoyed enormous success in the Program, but I don't believe that any other "major" software firm's certification program requires taking their own courses...at least not at this level.
I can somewhat understand Oracle's position on the course requirements for the OCM level, but not the OCP (or OCA).
Can you imagine being an experienced Oracle DBA (5+ solid years) and now deciding you want to become certified...now you need to waste 5 days on training which you likely don't need...plus $1,500 to $2,500 for a course...in addition to the regular exam prep materials that you would normally purchase.
This is obviously a move to corner the training market, and to bolster their saging Education business. Oracle complains about Microsoft's Anti-Trust practices...how about Oracle requiring you to take a course from them, and only them! O.K., you can also take it from an Oracle Authorized Education Partner...but Oracle gets a LARGE percentage of those registrations fees too!
SQL Server is starting to sound a bit better!!
Unfortunately, with your 5 years of experiene you need to spend 10K on going through the whole Intro to SQL , b,coz $1500 only get you thru the beginning first few chapters of Intro to SQL ..sighed.
Second, you can take college classes which is partnered with Oracle.
What is the goal of this new program ?? is it to limit or to make a qualified OCP ?. I agree with Oracle if they want to limit a number of OCP and make a qualified OCP beacuase there are a lot of unqualified OCP out there.
WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTANT IS : "WHY DOES A NEW OCP REQUIRE ONLY ONE COURSE ??? " WHY NOT ALL COURSES ??
I agree with Edward that It's imposible to be a qualified OCP just to follow one exam like Intro to PL/SQL, if they have no experiences before.
I have experience with Oracle for about 8 years and I have not done any certification before. I just did the OCP program this year because I moved a job as consultant. I didn't use any STS or any cheat-sheet, I passed all the exam at the first chance and hope I pass the 033 next week.
Btw, Why doesn't Oracle increase the exam fee says US.1000/exam or more (like SAP certification that cost US500/exam) . If it's happened than I belive that only a serious candidate will take the exam.
the amount of confusion this is generating is exciting. :-)
first, larry elison F*$%cked Oracle 8i licensing, then the entire state of california, and now those poor, unsuspecting over-worked wannabe/junior/DBAs earning 45k-100k/yr....tsk tsk tsk. the world is so unfair!!! when is this injustice going to end??
Better than requiring courses would be cover more stuff in the exams and make them harder and more scenario-based.
Courses are often a good thing for newbies, but most DBAs learn by the worst way (or better, depending from the point of view): across nights of work and stress.
From what I've seen, it's MUCH more important the snapshots issues, managing partitions, parallelizing transactions and interacting with the OS than knowing the default value for specific parameters, querying obscure dictionary views or learning every command of RMAN. And most of that stuff IS NOT included in the OCP DBA track, only Master track.
Sure, my experience is helping a lot on my studying, but I still need to memorize things that I'll probably never need. Oracle really should improve the OCP, but only requiring courses will just decrease the demand for certifications, and not form better professionals.
All M$ tests are scenario-based, but still too many paper MCSE/MCDBA! They only recite the scenario and questions related. I think only the test format can't all be multi-select. Maybe write all steps for a real scenario B&R, ...
I think Oracle can make the exams a little bit harder by making them 50% practical/hands-on and 50% written, Sort of like what they do in Cisco, but diff. ofcourse. And, increasing the fee for the exam, to say, $500-$600/exam.
I can hear a mob of angry DBAs walking towards me now hehe...
That makes sense. With that investment, I would prefer to change the line of work/learn something new, which adds little more value to the current work I'm doing.Quote:
Originally posted by marist89
Your career is your own responsibility. If you're not happy doing what you're doing, find another line of work. If you're out of work, get a job. If you can't find work in your town, move. If you don't think your career is worth a $3000 investment, don't get certified. Geez... [/B]
If one is working with Oracle for couple of years, understanding/implementing the new functionality/features is not a big deal (for day-to-day work), he/she might need little more extensive reading if at all. Implementing complex features like advanced Replication needs some kinda of traning which helps a lot... and reduce the time lines of the project.
ok....
So if you were to do the online new requirement....what is that apparently going to cost?
I dont care what u argue...this is a money making scheme and has nothing to do with furthering a DBA's learning path.
bottom line is what is the minimum it is going to cost me to do this NAZI requirement?
I would enroll myself in the oracle university, take workshop trainings, courses etc if they also added that they'd guarantee a dba job with it. I'd do it.
Ofcourse it's not their responsibility(explicitly) to create jobs but still they do. While there are so many things to learn in the tech sector, it would be unwise to go head-on just with oracle , you must stay versatile.
The adverse affects of this program would definitely be that there'll be less ocp's.
I personally think that oracle shudn't push this hard. they'll end up with burnt fingers.