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GREAT POSTS!!!
I think that an underlying theme is that a person has to stay abreast of new technology and new trends in order to demand a competitive salary and such.
I'm new to IT (I'm actually still in college) and am pursuing my OCP, so posts like these help out much more then you guys/gals may think....
I'm looking forward to this particular topic getting some insightful responses :)
Here is the link to this article:
http://www.sqlmag.com/Articles/Index...rticleID=19662
The installation of the Database software is only the beginning of the Journey. Database administrators will be around for a long time (in IT land... that's about 3 years right). Hmmm, anyway, Oracle isn't getting easier to administer, you still have to be able to understand the concepts of many diferent topics for Oracle. All documentation for each Oracle realease is in excess of 20,000 pages... and that's without including all the associated documentation sitting on Metalink.
No-one knows everything about Oracle and all it's associatied functionality, and while this is the case, there'll aways be the need for Oracle Database Administrators.
Cheers,
go to job sites and search for jobs by location. its all bull but hey....
TheSlob.
Can you, please, be more specific in your messages ? It's hard to understand what you are trying to say in your message.
{{Can anyone tel me the salary range for Oracle DBA with OCP?}}
In which country :-)Quote:
Can anyone tel me the salary range for Oracle DBA with OCP?
The wages issue is non negotiable. It don't matter how or what the times are. Depending on what your situation is ask for a wage what you want because what you deserve is always almost nothing in the eyes of the employer.
Here in netherlands they(DBA's) can range from 30K$ to 75K$. But like i said don't trust what 's on paper because on the negotiable table they'll always drag you down.
What i hate is i feel like saying(although my hunt for the REAL dba job will start when i have the ocp) since you're paying me far less than what i expected can i also be a slob, be less competent,show less or no initiative,laze around, and when there's trouble do nothing and blame some poor enduser for corrupting the database. It's very easy. I've seen people who're capable of doing just that, and guess what? The boss is happy that the problem is found, but how to solve hmmmm.....
I've said it once! good! hate me for it!
Trust me even if an employer got free tailormade programs, cheap employees. They'll fail in no time, because the management aspect was ignored. What's, if's,how's,when's were all ignored. (But they all have mba's ,they talk about faignbaum,taguchi,....)
And these are the companies which impact the economy,first you create a demand, then within no time lose vision with your lackadaisical approach. Then you have it coming ...massive layoffs, gloom days. I read in the newspaper today that germany is officially in recession. But that doesn't mean that there aren't any jobs, they're there but you'll hear the proverbial "ach, you know we do need a guy but your salary in these times....".
The bottom line is who's holding the reins, for instance my wife's sis is married to a family who're running the biggest transport logistic company in europe. but hey IT manager watch out before you want to give a presentation of a fantastic database management which will for example track your trucks,monitor their speed during cross country movements and check before he gets a fine for excess baggage, overspeeding,etc(some of these aspects do exist in transportation).
There are so many of them, soo many.
Tarry
I was replying to the first person who asked the question.
It is circumstantial evidence, but...Quote:
Originally posted by TimHall
The bad news is that the people best suited for these jobs are women since they have more connections between the left and right hand sides of the brain allowing their thought processes to cope with a deeper level of abstraction.
You will see an abnormally high number of left handers in these positions now. The high speed connection between the two hemispheres is about 10-15% larger in lefties. I have worked on a lot of projects where over half the people on the technical side are writing with their left hands when the group represents about 15% of the population.
Way off thread.
[Edited by dknight on 03-02-2002 at 07:00 AM]