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You must be some kind of goddam atheist or something! What an outrageous suggestion, "studies the facts". :)Quote:
Originally posted by gandolf989
I will take a candidate, like Kerry, who studies the facts and then forms an opinion over, someone like Bush who wants to change the facts to support his own beliefs.
...and then changes his mind when the polling numbers come out and changes his mind again when some of his liberal wannabes put a bug in his ear and changes is mind again when the wind blows from the south...Quote:
Originally posted by gandolf989
I will take a candidate, like Kerry, who studies the facts and then forms an opinion...
Tell us, are you talking about the same John Kerry who studied the same facts as the President and determined that Sadamm was a threat? Or are you talking about the John Kerry that voted to not fund the troops after he determined that Sadamm was a threat?Quote:
Originally posted by slimdave
You must be some kind of goddam atheist or something! What an outrageous suggestion, "studies the facts". :)
This would be the John Kerry that voted against the additional funding after the GOP refused to stop cutting rich people's taxes to help pay for it.Quote:
Originally posted by marist89
Tell us, are you talking about the same John Kerry who studied the same facts as the President and determined that Sadamm was a threat? Or are you talking about the John Kerry that voted to not fund the troops after he determined that Sadamm was a threat?
I think it's your guy who had the "bug in his ear" -- it's his long-established practice.Quote:
Originally posted by marist89
...and then changes his mind when the polling numbers come out and changes his mind again when some of his liberal wannabes put a bug in his ear and changes is mind again when the wind blows from the south...
In the fantasy world that Bush lives in you must never, never change your mind about anything, right? You know when the right time is to "change your horse in midstream"? When it becomes apparant that the one you're on is so dumb that he can't tell which is the right direction.
Oh, do you mean the top 20% that pay 63% of the taxes in this country, or the bottom 40% that pay 6%? Sounds fair to me! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by slimdave
This would be the John Kerry that voted against the additional funding after the GOP refused to stop cutting rich people's taxes to help pay for it.
It is sad that all this will be over next Tuesday.
:(
Is that right? Wow. Look what I found at http://www.census.gov ...Quote:
Originally posted by marist89
Oh, do you mean the top 20% that pay 63% of the taxes in this country, or the bottom 40% that pay 6%? Sounds fair to me! :rolleyes:
Here's what GWB says ...PHP Code:Table IE-3. Household Shares of Aggregate Income by Fifths
of the Income Distribution: 1967 to 2001
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Share of aggregate income
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Year Lowest Second Third Fourth Highest Top 5
fifth fifth fifth fifth fifth percent
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2001 3.5 8.7 14.6 23.0 50.1 22.4
2000 30/ 3.6 8.9 14.8 23.0 49.8 22.1
2000 /29 3.6 8.9 14.9 23.0 49.6 21.9
1999 3.6 8.9 14.9 23.2 49.4 21.5
1998 3.6 9.0 15.0 23.2 49.2 21.4
1997 3.6 8.9 15.0 23.2 49.4 21.7
1996 3.7 9.0 15.1 23.3 49.0 21.4
1995 25/ 3.7 9.1 15.2 23.3 48.7 21.0
1994 24/ 3.6 8.9 15.0 23.4 49.1 21.2
1993 23/ 3.6 9.0 15.1 23.5 48.9 21.0
1992 22/ 3.8 9.4 15.8 24.2 46.9 18.6
1991 3.8 9.6 15.9 24.2 46.5 18.1
1990 3.9 9.6 15.9 24.0 46.6 18.6
1989 3.8 9.5 15.8 24.0 46.8 18.9
1988 3.8 9.6 16.0 24.3 46.3 18.3
1987 21/ 3.8 9.6 16.1 24.3 46.2 18.2
1986 3.9 9.7 16.2 24.5 45.7 17.5
1985 20/ 4.0 9.7 16.3 24.6 45.3 17.0
1984 4.1 9.9 16.4 24.7 44.9 16.5
1983 19/ 4.1 10.0 16.5 24.7 44.7 16.4
1982 4.1 10.1 16.6 24.7 44.5 16.2
1981 4.2 10.2 16.8 25.0 43.8 15.6
1980 4.3 10.3 16.9 24.9 43.7 15.8
1979 18/ 4.2 10.3 16.9 24.7 44.0 16.4
1978 4.3 10.3 16.9 24.8 43.7 16.2
1977 4.4 10.3 17.0 24.8 43.6 16.1
1976 17/ 4.4 10.4 17.1 24.8 43.3 16.0
1975 16/ 4.4 10.5 17.1 24.8 43.2 15.9
1974 16/15/ 4.4 10.6 17.1 24.7 43.1 15.9
1973 4.2 10.5 17.1 24.6 43.6 16.6
1972 14/ 4.1 10.5 17.1 24.5 43.9 17.0
1971 13/ 4.1 10.6 17.3 24.5 43.5 16.7
1970 4.1 10.8 17.4 24.5 43.3 16.6
1969 4.1 10.9 17.5 24.5 43.0 16.6
1968 4.2 11.1 17.5 24.4 42.8 16.6
1967 12/ 4.0 10.8 17.3 24.2 43.8 17.5
Changes in Shares
1967 to 1980 7.5 -4.6 -2.3 2.9 -0.2 -9.7
1980 to 1993 -11.6 -8.7 -6.5 -2.8 7.3 17.7
NOTE: Change in data collection methodology suggests pre-1993
and post-1992 estimates are not strictly comparable.
This from the New Yorker endorsement that you enjoyed ...Quote:
Most of the tax cuts went to low- and middle-income Americans
Really, I don't know how us high-earners manage to survive. It's a good job GWB has all those Christian ethics to guide him in helping us towards a more just and equitable society.Quote:
Citizens for Tax Justice, a Washington research group whose findings have proved highly dependable, notes that, this year, a typical person in the lowest fifth of the income distribution will get a tax cut of ninety-one dollars, a typical person in the middle fifth will pocket eight hundred and sixty-three dollars, and a typical person in the top one per cent will collect a windfall of fifty-nine thousand two hundred and ninety-two dollars.
I think we can all agree on this. I'm sitting here waiting for my SQL to finish running, and I'd be desperately bored without this.Quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Hanky
It is sad that all this will be over next Tuesday.
:(
I just had to spend my tax savings on a memory upgrade for my desktop, by the way. It's enough to make you weep.
wow, is that right. Look what I foundQuote:
http://www.cbo.gov/showdoc.cfm?index...uence=1&from=0
and I bet that bottom 20 dude got a lot more enjoyment out of his $91 of cold duck than Bill Gates got out of his 59 grand.Code:Share of Total Federal Tax Liabilities
Income Category 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014
Lowest
Quintile 1.2 1.2 1.2 1.3 1.3 1.3 1.3 1.3 1.4 1.4 1.4 1.4 1.4 1.5
Second
Quintile 5.3 5.3 5.3 5.4 5.4 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.5 5.5 5.5 5.6 5.6 5.6
Middle
Quintile 10.3 10.3 10.3 10.4 10.4 10.4 10.4 10.5 10.5 10.6 10.6 10.7 10.7 10.7
Fourth
Quintile 18.7 18.7 18.8 18.8 18.8 18.9 18.9 19.0 19.0 19.1 19.1 19.2 19.2 19.2
Highest Quintile 64.4 64.3 64.2 64.0 64.0 63.8 63.7 63.6 63.4 63.3 63.2 63.0 62.9 62.8
All Quintiles 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0 100.0
Top 10 Percent 49.1 48.9 48.8 48.7 48.6 48.5 48.4 48.2 48.1 48.0 47.8 47.7 47.6 47.4
Top 5 Percent 37.8 37.6 37.5 37.4 37.3 37.2 37.1 36.9 36.8 36.7 36.5 36.4 36.3 36.1
Top 1 Percent 22.2 22.1 22.0 21.9 21.8 21.7 21.5 21.4 21.3 21.2 21.1 20.9 20.8 20.7