I don't know, I am only going off of what they told me. When I told them I tried doing that and reloading the listener, they said that both 8i and 9iAS need to be restarted as well as some other services and that it would be easiest to reboot. I know more needs to happen than just reloading the listener because that didn't work before. Most likely that is why none of the changes I tried worked. I will post again to let you know how it worked out. I will be doing the reboot late tonight when I can minimize the affects of it. From what I can tell about this server, it appears to be a very substandard installation anyways, so maybe that is why reloading the listener didn't work. "Locate listener.ora" comes up with about 17 files. I don't think that is normal, is it? Either way, I will be personally flying to their headquarters and strangling their "head" DBA if this doesn't work!