Thanks for the reply. For whatever reason your URL wasn't working but a quick search gave me what you were posting. If anyone else has any trouble here is another link to it.

Here is the thread topic from asktom.oracle.com:

Dennis -- Thanks for the question regarding "Bad Policy or not", version 8.1.6.3 originally submitted on 19-Aug-2002 14:06 Eastern US time, last updated 23-Aug-2002 19:02

& here is the amusing thread i'm going to pass on to my bossman

http://asktom.oracle.com/~tkyte/google.html

thanks