It's hightime ORACLE get his sh*t together....they are just greedy and pricing themselves out of the market....As I prepare for my last exam for OCP 8i...I wonder sometimes,why ORACLE is not giving back to us. How many guys work for ORACLE in this forum? ORACLE needs to invest in employing most of the guru w/o jobs(don't get me wrong), instead they just keep rolling out more certifications. This certification will not change anything at my job.