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    ERD tool that can reverse engineer using Levels of Foreign Keys away from root table

    Reverse engineering a 10 year old datamodel with 600 tables results in a messy circuit diagram.

    What I really need is to choose a source table central to the main themes such as ORDER_LINE_ITEM and then have the ERD tool pull in tables to the diagram that are 1,2,3 foreign key relations away.

    I once used a tool that would let me 'throttle' the size of tables involved like this but it was for MS_SQL.

    Does such a tool exist ?

    ER/Studio seemed to have that 'LEVEL' facility for child or parent Fkey releated entities in a Subdatamodel but it never actually added them in automatically.

    SQL Developer from Oracle is like the sqlplus command history with a depth of '1'. You can auto pull in children or parents but only one ring or level away from the table your working with.

    Thanks

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    Have you tried Visio?
    Also ER-Win does it
    Pablo (Paul) Berzukov

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAVB View Post
    Have you tried Visio?
    Also ER-Win does it
    I have obtained the trial key and installed ERwin. It locked up reverse engineer. I did not see a way to limit the tables. I also did not see a way to just connect to the database and 'cherry pick' a single table onto a diagram and the request all related tables within N-Fkeys be automatically added. This way I could provide several diagrams of key areas central to the theme.

    Any tips on how this N-Relations reverse engineer can be triggered would be appreciated. I excluded everything but tables in one schema and it appears to have locked up again.

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    Erwin works well. You might also look at SQL Developer. 600 tables is a lot.
    You are better off grouping the schema into sets of tables.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gandolf989 View Post
    Erwin works well. You might also look at SQL Developer. 600 tables is a lot.
    You are better off grouping the schema into sets of tables.
    Right. This is why it is important to be able to select a table such as CUSTOMER or ORDER_LINE_ITEM and then ask it to create a sub-model automatically by finding all tables N-foreign keys away. I think 2-3 FKEYs away would be useful.

    I downloaded and am currently reverse engineering the 600 table schema but I do not expect the result to be very useful and am not sure how to get ERwin do this 'ERD reverse engineer throttling'.

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    Look harder, after you select the target you can certainly include/exclude objects.
    Pablo (Paul) Berzukov

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