More Oracle TAR humor
Thought I'd share some more Tar humor. I have not edited the
conversation / spelling whatsoever.
### Reason current product functionality is insufficient. ###
During the application of patch 4193299 when the catcpu.sql is ran it
does the following.
ALTER SYSTEM SET "_system_trig_enabled"=FALSE SCOPE=MEMORY;
ALTER SYSTEM SET JOB_QUEUE_PROCESSES=0 SCOPE=MEMORY;
ALTER SYSTEM SET AQ_TM_PROCESSES=0 SCOPE=MEMORY;
ALTER SYSTEM SET NLS_LENGTH_SEMANTICS=BYTE SCOPE=MEMORY;
At the end of the patch these parameters are not back to their orginal
settings. In order for these settings to be put back to the orginal, the
database must be bounced. No where in the read me does it specify that one
should bounce the database after the patch has been successfully applied.
### Detailed description of the Enhancement Request. ###
In the read me file specify that the database MUST be bounced.
### How the product can be changed to achieve the desired result. ###
a simple one line sentence of. Bounce the database.
### Reasons to consider the Enhancement Request. ###
Because if they don't they're going to have a bunch of databases out there not
### Business impact if the Enhancement is not considered. ###
You all should know this the best.
10-MAY-05 07:11:00 GMT
TAR has been assigned to an analyst -- Sending email.
10-MAY-05 07:20:57 GMT
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Thank you for your patience.
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10-MAY-05 07:58:20 GMT
Where is the part of the paramter chaining during applying the
CPU patch in documents
From the patch read me file there is a link to
Note:301045.1 Subject: Oracle Critical Patch Update April 2005
Pre-Installation Note for Oracle Database
12. After running catcpu.sql/catcpu_rollback.sql, the following
parameters are set to a different value:
_system_trig_enabled, JOB_QUEUE_PROCESSES, AQ_TM_PROCESSES
and must be reset to their original values. This can be accomplished
by simply restarting the database to have the parameters reloaded
from the current parameter file. Alternatively, they can be reset
by running the following SQL statements:
ALTER SYSTEM SET "_system_trig_enabled"=&TRUE_OR_FALSE SCOPE=MEMORY;
ALTER SYSTEM SET JOB_QUEUE_PROCESSES=&X_JOB SCOPE=MEMORY;
ALTER SYSTEM SET AQ_TM_PROCESSES=&X_AQ SCOPE=MEMORY;
10-MAY-05 08:16:25 GMT
New info: That's your solution to this? You're kidding right?
That says KNOWN ISSUES... It says nothing about patching
instructions. Don't you think that as a part of the patching
proceedure that reloading the database should be included to bring
the database back to the orginal state that it was
before the patching process began?
10-MAY-05 08:19:14 GMT
yes i agree with you but this is document is considered
to be read before patching and this is refrenced 3 times in the
readme of the patch readme
10-MAY-05 08:46:24 GMT
New info : I still don't understand how reloading the database falls
under "known issues" but, it looks like you're going to take the easy
way out of this. So, let me make another "enhancement request". For
future IAVI patches (and all others for that matter) if system
parameters are dynamically changed during the patching process, can
Oracle simply put "After patch has been sucessfully applied reload
the database." at the end of the patch installation? After all
isn't this good practice after a patch has been applied?
With that in place it would ensure that the entire patching process
was followed correctly according to the readme and Post Installation
Instructions. It would also ensure without a doubt that any dynamic
system alterations would
be set back to orginal settings before the patching process started.
10-MAY-05 10:58:11 GMT
Actually,that i happened normally in the patch installation procedure
but your point of view is very logic and has to be taken into
consideration please follow these notes for logging enhancemnet
tar to address the issue as the procedure changed
Note:214168.1 Subject: Logging an Enhancement Request
10-MAY-05 11:49:25 GMT
New info : According to that note it says to open an ITAR and choose
"Product Enhancement Request" but this is what this current ITAR is
titled. Why would I have to open another ITAR if what we are
discussing deals directly with what is at hand?
10-MAY-05 12:28:34 GMT
I have opened an enhancemnet request for this issue it is :4360764
please wait some times and folllow it from metalink as described
from the note i already mentioned
Last edited by gandolf989; 05-11-2005 at 11:27 AM.
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