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  • Co-authored Tom Kyte/Jonathan Lewis/Cary Millsap

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  • Co-authored Don Burluson/mike Ault/_deleted_on_tarry's_request

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Thread: Poll: Best book on Oracle Performance/Design/Architecture/Planning

  1. #11
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    Thanks Jurij

    The poll seems to be going well and it a direction which clearly shows what a true reader wants.
    Tarry Singh
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    Originally posted by patel_dil
    Maybe there should have been only two options -
    1. NOT (Don/Mike)
    2. (Don/Mike).

    I would not mind reading books from any author except the above two. Hate to pay to read something that is proven wrong million times in open forums round internet.
    I agree with Patel_dil.

    Tom and Jonathan are very knowledgeable guys but you forgot other guys like Richard Niemiec and George Koch.
    Oracle it's not just a database it's a lifestyle!
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    Re: Poll: Best book on Oracle Performance/Design/Architecture/Planning

    Originally posted by Tarry
    Gents/Ladies,

    So the poll is should a book be written on oracle database, which one would you choose?

    WHICH BOOK WOULD YOU BUY?

    Tarry Singh

    I really got no idea, can u give us a hint pls
    I mean i like mutiple choice list to choose from.
    Are you referring only to the people contributing
    in this forum? or everyone including Tom Kyte.
    Last edited by kris123; 04-11-2005 at 08:21 PM.

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    Originally posted by OracleDoc
    I agree with Patel_dil.

    Tom and Jonathan are very knowledgeable guys but you forgot other guys like Richard Niemiec and George Koch.
    Richard Niemiec is BS as well

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    True Pando

    His presentations have less mettle and more ode's to Uncle Larry.
    Tarry Singh
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    Re: Re: Poll: Best book on Oracle Performance/Design/Architecture/Planning

    Originally posted by kris123
    I really got no idea, can u give us a hint pls
    I mean i like mutiple choice list to choose from.
    Are you referring only to the people contributing
    in this forum? or everyone including Tom Kyte.
    It is for everyone including Burleson/Ault. I think they too have chosen for TK/JL option/choice..lol haw
    Tarry Singh
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    Always wrong...really?

    I read with interest that I am always wrong. This would surprise my many clients I am sure. Indeed, I have to assume that the numerous "Thanks Mike you saved my bacon" emails I receive are false as well.

    I was incorrect on my advice about clustering factors, a point I admitted to 11 months ago.

    That makes all of my advice bad eh? Even Tom Kyte has admitted to errors, I guess that makes all of his material suspect.

    As far as index rebuilds, Tom Kyte has stated the same points I have in support of limited index rebuilds.

    The only books I co-authored with Don were on Job Interviews and the SSD test.

    I have contributed hundreds of scripts, techniques and findings over the years to the community taking time away from family, hobbies and life to do so. I have also spent thousands of dollars of my own money on equipment such as servers, disk arrays, hubs, swtchs, etc so that I can keep current and continue to participate. I have also presented at conferences world wide. For years I helped people answering thousands of questions on the Compuserve, Revealnet and other forums. I don't have a staff I can run to and ask the hard questions, I need to work them out, usually doing blackbox testing.

    I was one of the first to advocate shared pool tuning, monitoring of how buffers are used and not just hit ratios and numerous other techniques that are now mainstream. I wrote the first papers on using such tools as log miner, Java and Oracle, and many other utilities.

    Now, because of the attacks of various folks, you are ready to toss me out with the wash water. So be it.
    Michael R. Ault
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    Burleson Consulting

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    Re: Always wrong...really?

    Originally posted by mikerault I read with interest that I am always wrong.
    While I would not say that you are always wrong, I am curious about why no one is coming to your defense.
    I would bet that it has more to do with Don than it would with you.

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    Originally posted by pando
    Richard Niemiec is BS as well
    And you are entitled to your opinion.


    Originally posted by Tarry
    His presentations have less mettle and more ode's to Uncle Larry.
    I can't say that I've ever been to one of his presentations. As far as his accolades to Larry I guess one could say at least "he knows where his bread is buttered".


    Originally posted by mikerault
    Now, because of the attacks of various folks, you are ready to toss me out with the wash water. So be it
    Mr.Ault are we not judged by the company that we keep?
    Oracle it's not just a database it's a lifestyle!
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    Company We Keep

    Let's see, I hang around with CEO's, CIO's senior DBA staff, company owners. You all seem to hand around ... here.

    Don has his faults, he also provides jobs for a dozen or so consultants, and has helped companies worlwide save money using Oracle. He also devotes many hours to helping the blind with his guidehorse programs (at no profit.) Given the choice between him and what I can see of the stirling personalities here, yes, I would hang with Don.

    Each technology needs its, for lack of a better word, cheerleaders, as well as its gadflys. Unfortunately the Oracle world seems to have too few of the former and too many of the latter.

    It is always easier to criticize others than to create something yourself, you have no risks, you've put nothing on the line by criticism. Come back when you've written one book on Oracle or given half as many presentations or answered half as many technical questions as either Don or I or even Rich. Only then will your voice mean something. Right now it is just a sounding gong full of fury but no content.

    Mike
    Michael R. Ault
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