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    to be honest I dont know how you define a DBA now days, seems to many developers/analysts a DBA must know everything about Oracle, to management a DBA is just someone which looks useless and costs too much money

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    cheer up pando :-)
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    Originally posted by pando
    to management a DBA is just someone which looks useless and costs too much money
    May be its because now a days many of them states them as DBA without *really* understanding a term DBA which is quite broad in itself.. its like doing OCP as one of the academic career..

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    Originally posted by Sameer
    May be its because now a days many of them states them as DBA without *really* understanding a term DBA which is quite broad in itself.. its like doing OCP as one of the academic career..
    I agree but may be the market demand caused this in the last couple of years

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    Originally posted by pando
    I agree but may be the market demand caused this in the last couple of years
    and thus ended up introducing new terms in the market as Senior/Junior DBA or Database operator

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    Originally posted by Sameer
    and thus ended up introducing new terms in the market as Senior/Junior DBA or Database operator
    I never really understood what a Database operator means, what is his job? what's the difference between a database operator and a database administrator, when someone mentions database operator to me the first thing i can think of is a Data Entry guy (no offense).

    for instance if a guy plans a backup strategy, and writes the scripts he's a database administrator, but if a guy's role is to only make sure that backups are taken correctly, and that backups made are valid he's a Junior Database Administrator, i'd never call him a database operator.

    Cheers.

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    Re prseidents and vice-presidents, if one idiot has prior experience of being an idiot, and the other idiot is new to idioting, does that affect who is the bigger idiot?
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    Hi,
    what do you mean with DBA?
    either

    Code:
      Database Administrator ??
    OR

    Code:
      Database Assistant ??
    I want to know it, i cannot sleep anymore!!!

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    Craig s mullins has written an excellent book about who or wjhat is a dba check out an excerpt...
    http://www.dbazine.com/dba_1.html

    I personally think that being dba is entirely upto you. Some dba's can make developers sh*t and others can give it a rahter bad name by like pando said someone who does nothing and costs money.
    Well you gotta show all what you can do , but it's also dependent upon how is it politically allowed within your environment without burning edges here and there.

    Example:
    When i joined this firm the db's were running on no arch log mode with no record of backups anywhere. Well that was being done by a dba who was doing it remotely by a "hi-fi oracle partner" shop. I'd say you had a peasant sitting on the throne.

    Such retards make a dba job look so darn easy and then they get fired/ or leave and the next dba(who'd do a great job) can clean up his trash and be treated like trash.

    So be a dba or don't, don't just mess around with the job profile, the reverberations(good and bad) go beyond your imaginations.

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    Maybe we need a new thread about crap DBA's.

    Another Example:

    I interviewed an applicant who listed their current job as DBA, but he did not know whether his databases were running CBO or RBO, and the backup recovery strategy was a nightly full export. H'mmm. Tough choice to make there.
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