I'm installing a new 8.1.7 db with patch. Is there any sequence to which one come first? According to patch set notes, they assume db is up and running. In my case, i'm install a new db. Can i,

1) install just the 8.1.7 binaries,
2) patch it to 8.1.7
3) create the db using dbassist w/o having to run the instruction steps in the patch set notes?

Anyone hot the error when running the catalog.sql after patching :

create role recovery_catalog_owner
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01921: role name 'RECOVERY_CATALOG_OWNER' conflicts with another user or
role name