Ever after I am certified, I can no longer find a job - Page 3
DBAsupport.com Forums - Powered by vBulletin
Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
Results 21 to 29 of 29

Thread: Ever after I am certified, I can no longer find a job

  1. #21
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Helsinki. Finland
    Posts
    3,938
    I good DBA nowadays has some kind of OCP status. My definition of good DBA might defer from someone's else definition :-)
    Oracle Certified Master
    Oracle Certified Professional 6i,8i,9i,10g,11g
    email: ocp_9i@yahoo.com

  2. #22
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Posts
    807
    I'm not sure about the OCP credential bit. I've see posts on this very forum where folks say the actual exam question papers are available for a price. I've seen people ask for sample "dumps" here. Then I've seen the most inane questions about how to configure a listener come from OCPs. Given all this, it is not surprising that an OCP credential by itself doesn't mean much these days.

    Well, I'm an OCP(7.3,8,8i) myself. But I used to take the tests to force myself to learn new features right away. It didn't make job hunting any easier. Not that I expected it to either.

    To me - concepts, analytical and communication skills are primary. If a person can draw and explain the architecture of an Oracle database on a white board without having to think twice, s/he is 50% through. Sounds simple enough - but ask a "senior" DBA this and 8 times out of 10 they will goof. Who cares if a person can't answer nitty gritty commands/syntax in RAC or Data guard. It doesn't take a decent DBA long to figure the stuff out.

  3. #23
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Posts
    2,645
    Amen to that!

  4. #24
    Join Date
    Jan 2001
    Posts
    3,131
    Who dug up this thread?
    I remember when this place was cool.

  5. #25
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Posts
    295
    There aren't OCP's who know everything. There aren't PEOPLE who know everything.

    Frankly, sometimes I need to do some tasks that are covered by OCP and still need to check documentation. It's hard to remember exactly the steps when it's not a routine task, but at least the OCP program provided me the knowledge to know the WAY to follow. In-depth information can always be gathered on Metalink and official documentation.

    About getting OCP for a good job, well... it's better than nothing, but a certification alone won't bring many benefits. Experience is still the difference.
    An ounce of action is worth a ton of theory.
    —Friedrich Engels

  6. #26
    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Posts
    45
    Personally, I don't trust OCP, but I still go for it. Why, because it does give me some benefit. Go for OCP is one way for me to fresh my knowledge and learning something new. With OCP, I got more opportunity than other candidates who are not OCP when look for job. Current I am working for one of the TOP 2 US banks, I still remember few years ago, I got the interview opportunity partly because of my OCP status. In their recruit AD, it said must be OCP. Well, we all know working experience is most important, with OCP definitely will make things better. After all, OCP won't do you any harm.

  7. #27
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Location
    Helsinki. Finland
    Posts
    3,938
    Originally posted by xiaomao
    Well, we all know working experience is most important, with OCP definitely will make things better.
    No, *knowledge* is most important.
    Oracle Certified Master
    Oracle Certified Professional 6i,8i,9i,10g,11g
    email: ocp_9i@yahoo.com

  8. #28
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    1,684
    No. Oxygen is the most important thing. Without it you will die within 5 minutes...

    Although with knowledge you might know where to find Oxygen...

    OK Julian, you're correct
    Tim...
    OCP DBA 7.3, 8, 8i, 9i, 10g, 11g
    OCA PL/SQL Developer
    Oracle ACE Director
    My website: www.oracle-base.com
    My blog: www.oracle-base.com/blog

  9. #29
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Posts
    60

    Certifications

    With some efforts I passed OCP's, MCSD in last two years. My quest was more for mastering these books. But I have seen no one has really noticed that on my resume though I have a big logo of OCP on my resume. Almost all asked me on my job experience. Also, there is a trend that now employers asking more and more technical degree. If I do not have a degree I will try to get that part-time. That will endure more than these certifications. Besides, now one has option to learn Oracle, java, etc while pursuing these degrees, in older days college in CS courses will not teach these courses they will strictly teach computer science courses like compiler, db design, pascal(a good language to learn).

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  



Click Here to Expand Forum to Full Width