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Ah, the cut-and-thrust of political debate, FNC-style! It's thrilling stuff.
It's an image as believable as the story those swift boat losers are telling.
Damn Dave, lighten up, sometimes things are just funny. Kinda like Kerry's War record, 4 months, 400+ medals, NOW THAT IS FUNNY!!
Hmmmm, who do we believe a guy that will do anything to get elected or a couple of hunderd vets? Hmmmmmm, tough one.
:p
MH
Ha ha ha -- it's funny that all of these veterans remember him so well when he was there for just four months -- your boy georgie was "in Alabama", "serving his country" for over a year and no-one remembers him. I wonder why? Oh yes, 'cos he didn't bother to show up, 'cos he was a spoiled rich kid whose daddy's friends got him a snug position in the NG by leapfrogging a queue of 150 others. I knew there was a reason! Hail to the chief, even if he's a rich chickenhawk, eh? I don't understand why a right-wing gung-ho patriot like yourself thinks he's so great -- how do you explain your admiration for a man like that?
Moving along to Subject B, them Vets are just all sulky 'cos Kerry had the guts to repeat the testimony of GI's who committed war crimes -- note that they're not saying it didn't happen, and he's not saying the swift boat crews were implicated, but they just want everyone to pretend that the rapes, the murders, the burning of villages, the torturing never happened. Which, of course, it did. Bad things happen in wars, but the people who are cheering for them the loudest ought not to be denying these facts, don't you think? Or are you saying that bad things don't happen?
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Originally posted by Mr.Hanky and corrected for accuracy
Hmmmm, who do we believe a guy that will do anything to get elected, Bush or a couple of hunderd vets, who actually served with Kerry? Hmmmmmm, not so tough!!!!
BTW, one of the swift boat people spoke out for Kerry not that long ago. :confused:
Indeed Larry Thurlow's own military records state that he was under fire at the same time as he says Kerry wasn't, and Thurlow got a Bronze Star for it. George Elliott, who was their commander at the time, has given several contradictory versions of the story, and has now shut up about it.Quote:
Originally posted by gandolf989
:p
BTW, one of the swift boat people spoke out for Kerry not that long ago. :confused:
I guess that's what FNC would call "flip-flopping", eh?
Another example of flip flopping is a candidate who runs as a person who does not believe in nation building and unilateralism, and who when elected does both. The RNC should stop using the term. :D
What do you think Mr.Hanky?
Whatever Fox News tells him to think. :)Quote:
Originally posted by gandolf989
What do you think Mr.Hanky?
I think it is very easy, too easy in fact, to get Dave cranked up.
This is a large source of entertainment for me.
Yer going down in November Dave!!!!!
:D
MH
I think that's what you claim now -- you used to debate this stuff, but you've run out of answers, right? There's no substance to your beliefs at all, other than what you watch on TV.Quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Hanky
I think it is very easy, too easy in fact, to get Dave cranked up.
You never told us you feel about supporting a cowardly rich-boy chickenhawk -- got anything to say about that?
Yeah, your momma sews socks that smell. How do you like those woofers and tweeters!!?Quote:
Originally posted by slimdave
You never told us you feel about supporting a cowardly rich-boy chickenhawk -- got anything to say about that?
You are absolutely right Dave, I will now vote for the flip flopping man without a plan. I have seen the light and it is all thanks to you and your atypical Liberal conspiracy theory, hate Bush, anyone but Bush, agenda.
Thank You, Thank You, I have seen the light, saints be praised!!
:rolleyes:
MH
Yeah, that's what I thought -- no substance.
http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/...edoom/sad2.gifQuote:
Originally posted by slimdave
Yeah, that's what I thought -- no substance.
Hey, can i interest you in a video of the ex-lieutenant governor of Texas saying that he's ashamed of helping to get the sons of important people into the Texas National Guard?
Here's some favourite moments ...
By the way, in 1999 GWB said ...Quote:
I got a young man named George W. Bush into the Texas National Guard when I was lieutenant governor, and I'm not necessarily proud of that. But I did it. I got a lot of other people in the National Guard because I thought that was what people should do when you're in office, and you help a lot of rich people.
...
And I walked to the Vietnam Memorial the other day, and I looked at the names of the people that died in Vietnam, and I became more ashamed of myself than I have ever been, because it was the worst thing I ever did, was help a lot of wealthy supporters and a lot of people who had family names of importance get into the National Guard. And I'm very sorry about that, and I'm very ashamed, and I apologize to you as voters of Texas.
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And I tell you that for the Republicans to jump on John Kerry and say that he is not a patriot after he went to Vietnam and was shot at and fought for our freedom and came back here and protested against the war, he's a flip-flopper, let me tell you: John Kerry is a 100 times better patriot than George Bush or Dick Cheney.
Enjoy the rest of your day!Quote:
... any allegation that my dad asked for special favors is simply not true ... I didn't ask anybody to help get me to the Guard either.
Here's the video ... http://anon.salon.speedera.net/anon....Patriotism.wmv
Why can't you come up with a better retort than that? :confused:Quote:
More to think about.
Slate
Even more to think about.
The national debt is 7.3 trillion. The debt is projected to grow to 9.3 Trillion dollars by 2008. That is if Bush gets reelected, that would be a %40 increase in the national debt over 8 years. Hmmm, can we say borrow and spend conservative?
National Debt Since 1940
2004 Federal Budget
*wipes tear from eye* you guys are cracking me up! This is good comedy!
Dave and gandolf you guys go hug some trees and I'll take MH and go bury some styrofoam cups. Then we'll all hold hands and sing kume-by-ya.
Read it for yourself..
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ipt/index.html
* Also wipes tear from eye * While it is a good speech, it is still a speech. Bush's record speaks for itself, he favors defense contractors, the wealthy, building smaller nuclear devices that he can use, violating international treaties on arms, spending trillions on a missile shield that won't get used while refusing to spend a few billion to make our ports safer, cutting veteran benefits at a time when they are needed the most, cutting funding to states so that we can have even more weapons that we won't use, so that the $500 billion dollar deficit this year won't be as large as it could be. Can you say Joint Strike Fighter? Do we need another plane capable of dogfighting, when there hasn't been a dogfight between planes in years? Remember, he's a divider not a uniter.
Perhaps we should just play the theme to Top Gun. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by OracleDoc
*wipes tear from eye* you guys are cracking me up! This is good comedy!
Dave and gandolf you guys go hug some trees and I'll take MH and go bury some styrofoam cups. Then we'll all hold hands and sing kume-by-ya.
Or "Dumb and Dumber" :)Quote:
Originally posted by gandolf989
Perhaps we should just play the theme to Top Gun. :rolleyes:
It's be a great speech if it weren't full of crap.Quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Hanky
Read it for yourself..
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/...ipt/index.html
Giuliani still doesn't seem to have got the message that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 -- either he doesn't understand that it's The Big Lie, or of course he understands it and is trying to continue it, right? Bernard Kerik repeated the lie earlier on on -- so it seems like you're either being addressed by liars or idiots. Make your choice.
Giuliani also whines about other countries appeasing terrorists back in the 70's and 80's -- he (and the rest of America) have conveniently forgotten about all the $'s that flowed to the IRA for decades, for the "cause" of planting 3,300lb bombs in shopping centers. Not much heard about that nowadays, eh? Remember how the White House used to pressure the UK to enter talks with the IRA? Yes? No? The tune has changed since then, of course. Since then, terrorism became a bad thing apparantly.
Peeking behind the "Kerry is a flip-flopper" inanities, JK voted for the $87 billion for Iraq when there was an amendment to pay for it by rolling back the tax cuts for the rich, and the Republicans took it out hence the vote against. Is that a bit clearer now? Giuliani knows this of course, as do Bush & Cheney and the rest, but like the rest of the repubs they're relying on people being too dumb to watch anything but Fox News. He's probably right, 'cos all over the country they've got sh*t-kickin' rednecks earning minimum wage supporting that $87 billion appropriation, and those same rednecks will be queuing like sheep to vote for the rich guys in the suits. How funny.
Anyway, a long time ago there was much noble talk that 9/11 would never be used to support partisan politics -- the GOP has thrown that away now, and are trying to squeeze as much out of it as they can. Noble souls that they are.
Perhaps we all need to go back and look into the Iran-Contra afair. Wasn't that about arms for hostages?
Also, the Republicans supported the Taliban and Sadam Hussien in the 80's. But then they came after us. I thionk that the CIA calls that blowback. How many times have we intervened in the politics of other countries only to have it blow up in our face.
The republicans supported Noriega, until he started seeling to many drugs. With having republicans in the white house for 16 of the last 24 years, its no wonder the world is a mess.
Hmmm, who to believe Dave or Guiliani, hmmmmm, tough choice here.
You libs are too funny, you bich and moan about the war on terror and then when we make it clear WHY, you bitch and moan about misusing 9/11.
This is why you will never win, because if you do, you will have nothing left to bitch about.
Wah Wah Wah..........boo hoo hoo.......
What's the war on terror got to do with Iraq?Quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Hanky
Hmmm, who to believe Dave or Guiliani, hmmmmm, tough choice here.
You libs are too funny, you bich and moan about the war on terror and then when we make it clear WHY, you bitch and moan about misusing 9/11.
This is why you will never win, because if you do, you will have nothing left to bitch about.
Wah Wah Wah..........boo hoo hoo.......
Image of the day: Rummy and Saddam being best-of-buddies.Quote:
Originally posted by gandolf989
Also, the Republicans supported the Taliban and Sadam Hussien in the 80's.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...ddam_rummy.jpg
Go and find out for yourself. Don't just listen to speeches, look at the public records. Read the 9/11 commission report. A voter who just watches TV for information is no better than a poor dumb developer :)Quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Hanky
Hmmm, who to believe Dave or Guiliani, hmmmmm, tough choice here.
I supported going into Afgahnistan because that is where the terrorists trained. However, Sadam did not support Al Queida. Try not to get confused. Removing Sadam Hussien and his sons from power only created an opportunity for terrorists. i.e. violence begets more violence.Quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Hanky
Hmmm, who to believe Dave or Guiliani, hmmmmm, tough choice here.
You libs are too funny, you bitch and moan about the war on terror and then when we make it clear WHY, you bitch and moan about misusing 9/11.
This is why you will never win, because if you do, you will have nothing left to bitch about.
Wah Wah Wah..........boo hoo hoo.......
btw Dave has nothing to gain for telling the truth. Now that Guiliani is out of work, what does he have to gain for supporting Bush? :rolleyes:
Nice Dave, that really tells a lot. And yes again TV alone is no good. Maybe I'll go see Farenheight, or start reading on moveon.org, maybe I'll have lunch with Al Frankin.
:rolleyes:
The war on Terror did NOT end in Afgahnistan and it will not end in Iraq, get used to it. Sure, Saddam was innocent, his hands were clean. Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? Even your boy Clinton admitted that he had WMD, and guiliani was correct, he himself was a WMD. The price of freedom is high my friends.
Sure, go see Farenheit, and read moveon.org, just like I watch Fox sometimes -- maybe you should just try something other than FNC.Quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Hanky
Nice Dave, that really tells a lot. And yes again TV alone is no good. Maybe I'll go see Farenheight, or start reading on moveon.org, maybe I'll have lunch with Al Frankin.
Hey you said it, not me -- I see that you're picking up the misleading techniques so beloved of your own news sources. Saddam was a murderous dictator, and has been since before republican presidents were authorizing and assisting the sale of chemical weapons, anthrax, cluster bombs to him -- http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...¬Found=true -- He had nothing to do with 9/11 though, and was despised by the religious fanatics responsible for most of the middle east terrorism.Quote:
Sure, Saddam was innocent, his hands were clean. Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?
I noticed Giuliani saying that Hussein was the WMD -- clever stuff, maybe that'll be the new line from the GOP ... "Oh, when we said WMD's we meant Saddam Hussein". They must have been slapping their things with laughter when they thought that one up. It sounds so much better than "We were pretty sure he had WMD's because Saint Ronnie sold them to him 20 years ago."
The price of freedoms gets higher every day. If you want to see Cheney speak you are required to sign a loyalty oath before being admitted. I thought loyalty oaths went out with McCarthy. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Hanky
Nice Dave, that really tells a lot. And yes again TV alone is no good. Maybe I'll go see Farenheight, or start reading on moveon.org, maybe I'll have lunch with Al Frankin.
:rolleyes:
The war on Terror did NOT end in Afgahnistan and it will not end in Iraq, get used to it. Sure, Saddam was innocent, his hands were clean. Do you know how ridiculous that sounds? Even your boy Clinton admitted that he had WMD, and guiliani was correct, he himself was a WMD. The price of freedom is high my friends.
I do agree that the war on terror does not end with Afgahnistan. But starting a war in Iraq makes no sense. If we invaded anyother country besides Afgahnistan it should have been Saudi Arabia. As we all know most of the terrorists were Saudis, and the saudi government along with financially supporting terrorists have financially supported the Bush family. How ironic.
We have lost too many freedoms since George W. Bush failed to get a majority of Americans to vote for him in 2000. Our government can hold people without charging them with crimes indefinitely, we have secret courts issueing subpeonas for searches based on hearsay, we also have an FCC which is clamping down on free speech not just for the content of what is being said without any relation to the context.
I don't think that America can afford Bush's brand of freedom. Yes Sadam was a murderer, yes he was a dictator. but who's next? When do we invade North Korea? Kim Jung Il is a bigger tyrant than Sadam could ever hope to be. North Korea is one of the biggest suppliers of missile technology to rouge nations. Why don't we invade North Korea? Is it not a growing threat? Is Kim Jung Il not everything that we said about Sadam and more? Maybe you should watch Fahrenheit 911.
In case you aren't able to see the movie.
http://www.michaelmoore.com/warroom/...ndex.php?id=16
http://www.michaelmoore.com/warroom/index.php?id=24
I think that the title for this picture should be Rumsfeld confronts a growing menace. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally posted by slimdave
Image of the day: Rummy and Saddam being best-of-buddies.
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I really do love these pointless political bloodbaths.
:cool:
And at that point, dear friends, the substance ends once more.Quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Hanky
I really do love these pointless political bloodbaths.
:cool:
:D
Perhaps should should stop watching Hannity and Colmes on Fox! :DQuote:
Originally posted by Mr.Hanky
I really do love these pointless political bloodbaths.
:cool:
Hanky,
Now I understand why and how morons get elected!
Wow, outnumbered by the idealists.
These are pointless, why? Because nothing I say or do and certainly nothing you say or do will have any effect on how I or you vote, period.
Thus, pointless.
Dave, you are sexy when you are angry and denying you a valid argument is a great source of entertainment for me.
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Ps. Hannity is the only guy out there that makes sense!!
Pss, when have I ever admitted to watching fox, or listening to Hannity or any other news source?